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Betty Guy ‘murdered by her daughter and grandson’

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BETTY GUY was murdered by her own daughter and grandson, a jury heard today (Jan 9).

Penelope John fed her crushed transquilisers and alcohol and Barry Rogers smothered her with a pillow, it was alleged.

John, aged 50, of Union Terrace, St Dogmaels, and Rogers, 32, of High Street, Fishguard, deny murdering 84 year old Mrs Guy on November 7, 2011, at her home in Hillcroft, Johnston, near Haverfordwest.

Paul Lewis QC, prosecuting at Swansea Crown Court, said at first Mrs Guy’s death was put down to natural causes and her body was cremated soon afterwards.

But in the following years, he alleged, Rogers made a series of confessions to women he later had relationships with.

And police tape recorded more confessions after they secretly bugged John’s home and heard both of them discussing what they had done.

They included, said Mr Lewis, Rogers telling his mother: “But I did it. No honestly you have got nothing to worry about, it’s me that’s the one that’s done the act.”

Later they became concerned about whether Rogers had spoken about John putting tablets into Mrs Guy’s whiskey on a mobile telephone or put it in a text.

Rogers could be heard saying, softly, to John: “Are you starting to crack? Keep our story the same.”

John was taped saying: “No, I can’t remember. Did I text you when I said I crushed the diazepam up and I crushed zopiclone and put it in her….

“No, I would not have text that to you Barry. On reflection, I would have told you on the telephone.”

Rogers allegedly replied, “On the phone, yeah. I’m sure we spoke on the phone about it.”

Another recording caught Rogers, referring again to mobile telephones, saying to John: “But it’s f***ing technology like, a slip of a word here or there and we are in deep s**t like, we’re in jail for life.”

Mr Lewis said the prosecution case was that both Rogers and John had decided to end Mrs Guy’s life.

At 2.48am on November 7 John dialled 999 and said her mother had died. She said she had been suffering from stomach and bowel cancer, both of which were untrue.

She also said Rogers was in the house.

Because Mrs Guy was to be cremated her body was examined by two doctors. Dr Roger Burns noted small pinpoint bruising on the left side of her face.

No postmortem was carried out and the cremation went ahead at Narberth.

Rogers developed a relationship with Sandra Adams, who had been a junior school pupil in Haverfordwest with him many years before.

In November, 2015, Miss Adams went to the police to say Rogers had told her that he had smothered his grandmother with a pillow and an investigation began.

Detectives traced his estranged wife, Lisa Watkins, and another woman he had had a relationship with, Rhianne Morris.

Mr Lewis said they discovered that Rogers had also confessed to them.

The defendants were arrested on October 5, 2016.

While they were being interviewed bugs were placed at John’s home and on their release Rogers was granted bail on the condition he stayed with his mother.

“Almost as soon as they got in they began to talk,” said Mr Lewis.

When Rogers was re-interviewed and told about the tape recordings, he claimed to have made the statements ‘to take the p**s out of you pigs’.

Rogers, a former soldier, told police he knew the house had been bugged because he had bought a bug detector on EBay the day after he and his mother had been released on bail.

But, said Mr Lewis, the incriminating conversations had been recorded in the early hours of the morning or their release and ‘well before Barry Rogers could possibly have bought any bug detector’.

Mr Lewis said Rhianne Morris had told them that in 2010 she had moved in with Rogers, then living at 6 Rhydyfelin, Cardigan. Later, they moved to Frome in Somerset.

Late on November 6, 2011, Rogers received a telephone call from his mother and he could be heard saying: “It’s time, is it?”

Rogers then drove to Johnston and telephoned Miss Morris in the early hours of the following day to say ‘his Nan had gone’.

He allegedly told Miss Morris that John had given Mrs Guy ‘a load of tablets and a bottle of whiskey’.

Their relationship deteriorated and during a heated argument Rogers allegedly said to Miss Morris: “You want to be careful, or I’ll do to you want I did to her.”

Rogers allegedly picked up a pillow and held it to his face, saying to Miss Morris: “I’ll do it while you’re sleeping and you won’t know.”

Both John and Rogers deny having any involvement in Mrs Guy’s death.

t was now too late for anyone to prove medically how Betty Guy died, the jury heard.

Her body was cremated four days after her death.

But, said Paul Lewis QC, the prosecution would still show that she was suffocated as the result of an agreement between the two defendants.

After police had become suspicious about how she had died a Home Office forensic pathologist, Dr Deryck James, had reviewed her medical history and the notes made by the two doctors who had examined her body before she had been cremated.

Dr James concluded that although she had suffered ill health she had not any terminal illness.

Dr James said he noted that bruising had been visible on Mrs Guy’s face.

“In his opinion where a person is found dead, is face up and has not been the subject of any resuscitation attempts, then such petechiae (bruising) warrant further investigation because they raise the question of there having been pressure applied to the face or neck and thus the possibility of suffocation.

“However, such petechiae do not point inexorably to there having been an obstruction to Mrs Guy’s breathing and, from a medical standpoint, Dr James cannot now rule out that Mrs Guy suffered a natural death.

“The medical evidence cannot therefore provide any certainty as to how Mrs Guy died.”

He told the jury, “You will have to decide upon all the evidence that you hear.

“Did she die of natural causes as the defendants contend or, as we allege, was she suffocated as the result of an agreement reached between the two defendants.

“We submit, however, that she did not die from natural causes and that the defendants did not tell the truth in interview.

“Instead, they lied to try and conceal the arrangement they had made and the steps that they took to end Mrs Guy’s life.”

The trial continues and is expected to last for three weeks.

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Tenby: Suspected groomer netted by paedophile hunters PH Balance

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A SUSPECTED child sex offender has been arrested in Tenby this weekend in a sting operatition set up by a peadophile hunter group called PH Balance.

The group, according to media reports, aims to catch predators on social media and in chat rooms before conducting stings and then handing evidence to the police.

A post on the group’s Facebook page has received a lot of local attention and includes a photograph of the suspect being detained by officers at Tenby railway station on Sunday (Jul 22)

A spokesman from PH Balance calling himself Taz posted: “Today the west team deployed to Tenby under the leadership to capture a ‘creature’ who had been talking to a 14-year-old girl and arranged to meet her at midday.

“The team caught him and called the police who responded rapidly and made an arrest.

“Two in two days for the PH family, and a busy summer holidays looks [to be] on the horizon.

“Well done PH Balance West.”

Dyfed-Powys Police have been contacted by The Herald for a comment.

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Keep Calm and Carry On at Carew Castle’s murder mystery events

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WOULD-BE detectives will be given the chance to catch a killer at Carew Castle on 27 and 28 July during two Second World War-themed murder mystery evenings packed with drama and intrigue.

Don’t Panic by Harvey’s Players is set in 1943 Carew, where a murder rocks the sleepy village as it gears up for the annual flower and produce show. It will be down to you to help the home guard track down the culprit and put them behind bars.

Carew Castle Manager, Daisy Hughes said: “If you’re a fan of detective dramas, 1940s fashion and good food, then join us in the Castle’s cosy Lesser Hall, where we’ll keep the home fires burning while the investigation ensues.

“Fancy dress is optional but with the cast donning authentic uniforms loaned from Carew Control Tower and a prize for the best Vera Lynn lookalike, there’s all the more reason to delve into your wartime wardrobe for afternoon dresses, hats and military outfit to fully immerse yourself in this 1940s experience.”

Tickets are £20 for adults and £18 for children (not suitable for under 12s). Doors will open at 7pm with the event starting at 7.30pm on both nights. Ticket price includes buffet. A bar will be available all evening.

To book your tickets call Carew Castle on 01646 651782 or more information visit www.carewcastle.com.

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Milford Haven: Two more arrested in Mount Estate drugs raids

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ARMED officers from Dyfed-Powys Police have carried out further drugs warrants in the Elm Lane and Willow End area of the Mount Estate in Milford Haven this week.

As a result of the raids, which took place on the morning  Friday  July 20, a quantity of drugs were seized and two males were arrested.

One male remains in custody and one has been released under investigation.

A police spokesperson told The Herald that an investigation into the matter is ongoing.

The spokesperson added: “Anyone with information on drug use is asked to report to police by calling 101, or anonymously contact Crimestoppers by calling 0800 555111.”

Police at the Mount Estate, Milford Haven on July 20, 2018 (Pic: Herald)

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