Politics
‘You’re not listening’: Committee grills housing secretary on building safety bill
WALES’ housing secretary Jayne Bryant was bluntly told “you’re not listening” during a tense committee grilling over fears building safety reforms will “suppress” social housing supply.
Labour’s Lee Waters accused her of ignoring repeated, high-level warnings from the sector about pushing through a bill that risks curtailing construction amid a “housing emergency”.
A tense exchange highlighted “profound disagreement” as the minister and her officials pinned the sector’s concerns on a “misunderstanding” of the building safety bill.
Warning of a lack of policy “join up”, Mr Waters pointed to evidence from the sector that the post-Grenfell reforms risk suppressing their ability to bring forward homes for social rent.
But Ms Bryant gave little ground, insisting the average costs would be low and the Welsh Government would not solve supply problems by “allowing people to live in unsafe homes”.

Mr Waters explained social landlords have warned the additional cost burden will affect their ability to borrow and the number of properties they can develop.
He asked: “Why are you so dismissive of that clear evidence from the sector?”
Ms Bryant pushed back, stating the Welsh Government speaks to the sector regularly as she gave evidence to the Senedd’s housing scrutiny committee.
But her Labour colleague replied: “With respect, that’s not my question. I don’t doubt you’re talking to the sector. The sector has given evidence to this committee that says very clearly this will suppress their ability to bring forward investment and you are not addressing that.”
Ms Bryant argued social housing supply is being addressed through other policy levers, saying: “I’m very happy to listen to them, but I do not think—”
Mr Waters interjected: “Well, you’re not listening to them, with respect, because we’re telling you what their evidence is and you’re not engaging with it.”
He pointed to evidence from Community Housing Cymru, which warned it would cost one housing association £100,000 a year to do fire assessments for lower-risk buildings.
The former minister asked: “Why are you still insisting that the costs are trivial?”
Ms Bryant denied she was dismissing the costs as trivial, explaining a lower-risk third category with less onerous restrictions was added due to concerns about proportionality.
But Mr Waters suggested: “You’ve replaced one bad idea with another.”
He raised evidence from Trivallis housing association which warned of an extra regulatory burden and costs for lower-risk buildings already covered by fire risk assessments.

Pressed on whether the £100,000 figure is credible, official Steve Pomeroy said: “It’s not for me to say how they do business and what they think their costs are, but—”
Mr Waters cut in: “Well, it is for you to say. That’s the whole point of this session… we’ve had evidence, you’re saying it’s not right and you’re not telling us why.”
Mr Pomeroy, head of fire services in the Welsh Government, said: “I can’t personally see why there is £100,000 of extra cost there unless there is something that they are doing or not doing now that they maybe ought to be doing under the fire safety order.”
Mr Waters criticised the “awfully casual” accusation, with Mr Pomeroy rowing back on his suggestion that Trivallis is breaking the law. “We have no evidence to that effect,” he said.
Tania Nicholson, deputy director for housing quality, pledged to pick the issue up with Trivallis to ensure “absolute clarity” in terms of expectations under the bill.

Mr Waters said: “With respect, this is the consistent answer: ‘We’re talking to the sector. We’re listening to the sector’. But you’re not, are you?”
Ms Nicholson added: “I think there’s probably some misunderstanding in terms of the expectations under the bill and the current arrangements.”
But Mr Waters was dissatisfied: “You can’t expect us to pass a law of this gravity on the basis that there are some problems and, ‘We’ll sort it out; we’re talking to them’.
“This is law. We can’t put into law things that are going to make things worse and you’re not giving us any good reason not to.”
During the fiery exchange on Wednesday (October 22), the Labour politician concluded: “It seems there are klaxons being sounded by the sector here that the Welsh Government appears deaf to – I’m really troubled by it.”
Business
Cosheston Garden Centre expansion approved by planners
PLANS to upgrade a garden centre on the main road to Pembroke Dock have been given the go-ahead.
In an application to Pembrokeshire County Council, submitted through agent Hayston Developments & Planning Ltd, Mr and Mrs Wainwright sought permission for upgrade of a garden centre with a relocated garden centre sales area, additional parking and the creation of ornamental pond and wildlife enhancement area (partly in retrospect) at Cosheston Garden Centre, Slade Cross, Cosheston.
The application was a resubmission of a previously refused scheme, with the retrospective aspects of the works starting in late 2023.
The site has a long planning history, and started life as a market garden and turkey farm in the 1980s, and then a number of applications for new development.
A supporting statement says the previously-refused application included setting aside a significant part of the proposed new building for general retail sales as a linked farm shop and local food store/deli in addition to a coffee bar.
It was refused on the grounds of “the proposal was deemed to be contrary to retail policies and the likely impact of that use on the vitality and viability of nearby centres,” the statement said, adding: “Secondly, in noting that vehicular access was off the A 477 (T) the Welsh Government raised an objection on the grounds that insufficient transport information had been submitted in respect of traffic generation and highway safety.”
It said the new scheme seeks to address those issues; the development largely the same with the proposed new garden centre building now only proposed to accommodate a relocated garden centre display sales area rather than a new retail sales area with other goods, but retaining a small ancillary coffee bar area.
“Additional information, in the form of an independent and comprehensive Transport Statement, has now been submitted to address the objection raised by the Welsh Government in respect of highway safety,” the statement said.
It conceded: “It is acknowledged that both the creation of the ornamental pond and ‘overspill’ parking area do not have the benefit of planning permission and therefore these aspects of the application are ‘in retrospect’ and seeks their retention.”
It finished: “Essentially, this proposal seeks to upgrade existing facilities and offer to the general public. It includes the ‘relocation’ of a previously existing retail display area which had been ‘lost’ to the ornamental pond/amenity area and to provide this use within the proposed new building and moves away from the previously proposed ‘farm shop’ idea which we thought had merit.
“This revised proposal therefore involves an ‘upgrading’ rather than an ‘expansion’ of the existing garden centre use.”
An officer report recommending approval said that, while the scheme would still be in the countryside rather than within a settlement boundary, the range of goods sold would be “typical of the type of goods sold in a garden centre and which could be sold elsewhere within the garden centre itself,” adding: “Unlike the recent planning application refused permission it is not intended to sell delicatessen goods, dried food, fruit and vegetables, pet products and gifts.”
It added that a transport statement provided had been reviewed by the Welsh Government, which did not object on highway grounds subject to conditions on any decision notice relating to visibility splays and parking facilities.
The application was conditionally approved.
Business
Tenby Poundland site could become retro gaming lounge
TENBY’S former Poundland and Royal Playhouse cinema could become a retro computer gaming lounge, plans submitted to the national park hope.
Following a takeover by investment firm Gordon Brothers, Poundland shut 57 stores earlier this year, including Tenby.
Prior to being a Poundland, the site was the Royal Playhouse, which had its final curtain in early 2011 after running for nearly a century.
The cinema had been doing poor business after the opening of a multiplex in Carmarthen; in late 2010 the opening night of the-then latest Harry Potter blockbuster only attracted an audience of 12 people.
In an application to Pembrokeshire Coast National Park, Matthew Mileson of Newport-based MB Games Ltd, seeks permission for a ‘CONTINUE? Retro Gaming Lounge’ sign on the front of the former Gatehouse (Playhouse) Cinema, White Lion Street, most recently used as a Poundland store.
The signage plans form part of a wider scheme for a retro gaming facility at the former cinema site, which has a Grade-II-listed front facade, a supporting statement through agent Asbri Planning Ltd says.
“The subject site is located within the settlement of Tenby along White Lion St. The site was formerly the Gatehouse Cinema and currently operates as a Poundland discount store, which closed on October 18.”
It adds: “This application forms part of a wider scheme for the change of use to the former Gatehouse Cinema. Advertisement consent is sought for a non-illuminated aluminium composite folded panel that will be bolted onto the front façade of the proposed building, in replacement of the existing signage (Poundland).”
It stresses: “It is considered that the proposed advertisement will not have a detrimental impact on the quality of the environment, along with being within a proportionate scale of the building. It is considered that the proposed signage will reflect site function.
“Furthermore, due to the sympathetic scale and design of the sign itself, it is considered that the proposal will not result in any adverse visual amenity impacts.
“The proposal is reduced in sized compared to the existing Poundland advertisement. The sign will not be illuminated. Given the above it is considered that such proportionate signate in association with the proposed retro gaming lounge is acceptable and does not adversely affect visual amenity.”
An application for a retro gaming lounge by MB Games Ltd was recently given the go-ahead in Swansea.
Business
Llandeloy cottage crochet plans given the green light
A CALL to change the use of a Pembrokeshire farm holiday cottage to a crochet workshop has been given the go-ahead by Pembrokeshire planners.
In an application to Pembrokeshire County Council, Mr and Mrs Evans of Lochmeyler Farm, Llandeloy, through agent Harries Planning Design Management, sought permission for a change of use of a self-catered cottage to a crochet workshop.
A supporting statement says the application, one of a number of historic farm diversification schemes on site “seeks to continue to evolve with current market demands,” the cottage proposed for the change of use once a former outbuilding that was originally converted in 1992 into “a well-established holiday let”.
It added: “Made by Margo is a well-regarded local business founded by Margo Evans, a passionate lifelong crafter who began knitting at a young age. Her company specialises in creating handcrafted, contemporary crochet products using high-quality natural materials.
“Accordingly, Margo is a highly sought-after teacher known for her popular crochet classes. This proposal is motivated by a recognised need for a permanent space for the business, as to date the applicant has needed to use community halls or similar spaces to accommodate clients.
“Thus, the proposed change of use will secure a permanent space for these workshops and will future proof the business against the lack of availability of public spaces.
“Other alternatives have been considered with the cottage being the most viable option, particularly as demand has waned for holiday cottage post Covid-19. The holiday cottage, whilst once popular, is no longer in high demand, with visitors requiring more modern amenities and larger spaces which without significant investment, this holiday cottage is unable to provide.
“Consequently, the cottage’s change of use will diversify the farm’s revenue, while simultaneously providing a permanent base for a small rural business. While the primary customer base is local, the space may also help attract seasonal tourism and broaden the business’s appeal.”
It says the operation would be on a small scale, with a maximum of six people per class and a three day per-week schedule.
An officer report, recommending approval, said: “The provision of a workshop would have both social and environmental benefits for the applicant and local community through the provision of business and income generated from the operation.
“With regard to environmental impacts, positive environmental impacts would be achieved through the re-use of the building. Whilst the proposed location is in the open countryside, which is not a sustainable location, the proposed operation of the business is low scale. It is considered that the number of trips would be of low frequency when compared to the potential number of trips that are generated from tourism.”
The application was conditionally approved.
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