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New policy for fly grazing horses: will it work?

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Monkton: The Horse tethered to the ground near to Monkton Priory School

Monkton: The Horse tethered to the ground near to Monkton Priory School

PEMBROKESHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL has developed a new way of dealing with horses fly grazing on council land.

The issue has been on-going for a number of years but until now there has not been one single point of contact to deal with the problem.

The Council’s Environmental Services now has the lead when dealing with fly grazing horses but will the new service actually work?

The Police have said that although they may be called to an incident, they are often in a difficult position when it comes to dealing with it and it takes them on average 1 hour and 22 minutes to deal with a stray horse.

It was also pointed that owners may not be willing to pay the fee required to get their horses back should the council have to take them away.

The Control of Horses act has been brought in across England while Carmarthenshire County Council has also embraced the act.

The horse has also been seen chasing after residents who have been walking their dogs.

SCRUTINY COMMITTEE

Discussions were held at a meeting of the Environment Overview and Scrutiny Committee on Tuesday, March 15.

The Committee has been concerned about the issue for a number of months and had asked what could be done to tackle the problem.

Previously, there were no specific resources available for dealing with horses fly grazing on Council land and any issue would have to be dealt with within existing budgets.

At a meeting in November 2015, the Environment committee recommended that a working group be set up to look at a way forward.

A meeting of the Heads of Service of Property (Barry Cooke), Highways and Construction (Darren Thomas), Environment and Civil Contingencies (Richard Brown) and Public Protection (Mark Elliot) on February 11, 2016 and they have come up with a way forward.

Environmental services have been tasked with being the main point of contact for issues around horses fly grazing on council land.

It was also agreed that the incidences would be dealt with on a case by case basis when either;

• A horse is posing a realistic threat to people or property

• A horse is posing a realistic threat to the health and welfare of people and animals or,

• A horse has strayed onto the highway

Enforcement action will not be taken if a horse is securely tethered and tendered.

Any costs incurred will be left to the service responsible for the land where the horse is found.

At the meeting of the Environment Committee in March councillors were concerned that the police had little powers when it comes to dealing with fly grazing and also spoke about adding signs to help prevent future issues.

Head of Environment and Civil Contingencies, Richard Brown said: “We have agreed a way forward with Barry Cooke, Mark Elliot (Head of Public Protection) and Lyn Hambidge.

“Environmental services will act as a lead co-ordination body for dealing with all fly-grazing issues. So at the moment there is confusion, lack of clarity and ultimately lack of action in the way that things are currently going on.

“Essentially we’re proposing an approach which is, the best analogy is similar to something of an abandoned car or a stray dog, you have a single point of contact, it doesn’t matter whose land it is on, whether it is running between housing land or highway land or play areas, we just have one section dealing with it who’s got the knowledge, the legal authority to be able to deal with it and the understanding of it.

“We won’t have an automatic assumption of dealing with it. We’ll be looking at whether or not it is posing a risk or there has got to be some other overwhelming reason that we want to tackle it.

“We are fully aware that and don’t disagree with what was said previously regarding costs but having had a look into it and haven spoke to Carmarthen, the costs are not insignificant.

“The value of the horse is next to nothing, we have to pay somebody to come along and take the horse away, stable it, give it a medical check over and then retain it for a period of time and the likelihood is nobody is going to come and claim it and pay what’s going to be several hundred pound at least, so essentially we are taking in horses and then we have to make a decision about what happens to them.

“Internal protocol is being developed but we’re here just to address your concerns regarding a single point of contact.”

The Council had also invited two police sergeants to the meeting to ask what the police could do in relation to fly grazing horses.

DYFED-POWYS POLICE

Sgt Terri Harrison said: “The majority of calls we have relate to horses straying onto the highway as opposed to horses fly grazing and whether it be private or public land.

“We have had a number of calls but I think that you’d be surprised at the amount of calls we do have that aren’t reflected in your concerns.

“We’ve got the stats from our headquarters and they are not reflective with the concerns that have been brought to our attention in the last few days. Certainly we are not getting calls regarding horses fly grazing on council land.

“The majority of calls that we tend to are horses, cattle, and livestock roaming on the highways which of course we can deal with.

“I know that Carmarthenshire County Council has embraced the new Control of Horses Act that came in 2014 and they have seized a large amount of horses since then. They work with animal welfare and they take them away and obviously there is seven days when they can keep them, until the owners or the location of the horses are known then they will apply to them to try and get the money back but that is not happening because these will say it is not mine and there are so many families with the same name so sometimes it is really hard to get hold of them.

“What we need to do as a police force is that if we do come across these and somebody comes up to us says that is their horse, we need to take initial action and get their details from them there and then.

“With regards to fly grazing we are not having the calls at all and, with due respect, it is not really in our remit unless it is a public concern of community safety or danger.”

Cllr Brian Hall said: “The animals that are roaming have obviously come from somewhere, usually tethered on to council or private land and they have broken their tethers.”

Sgt Harrison replied: “On occasion, I wouldn’t say the majority of times.”

PROBLEMS IN MONKTON

There is a significant issue in Monkton, Cllr Pearly Llewellyn’s ward, and she was also invited to the committee to give here views.

Cllr Llewellyn said: “There is one particular problem which is a stallion that is tethered on community ground. It’s been there five to seven weeks.

“It’s a huge animal; it’s got full length of the tether across the community ground. Children can’t go on it to play football and it is also a favourite place for dogs to walk.

“I made an approach, because we found out who the owner was and happened to be passing through and I saw the owner moving the tether. So I went up to him and I said I don’t want to cause an argument but do you know you are not supposed to be here. I had a load of abuse from him and he kept walking around and he said ‘there is nothing wrong with my horse, it’s well fed, it’s watered, I’ll do what I want to do and if I want to put my horse here I will.’

“On March 9, I had a telephone call to say the horse was in the school grounds galloping round and the children are coming into the school.

“Another person saw to the horse and caught it and the horse pulled him around and hit him into the hedge where he damaged his hand. So he tied the horse up to the nearest place where he could tie it so the owner came to retrieve the horse and take it back where it had come from.

“The deputy head teacher said he was going to report it to the police and they said that school gates were going to be locked.

“I was fearing for my safety that night thinking there was going to be repercussions.

“They’re just not taking any notice, and the problem I have had is being passed from department to department so there has to be a point of contact and there has to be something done to stop whoever it is tethering horses on council land.

“There was an incident in the middle of the night and five horses had got out into South Meadows on a private housing estate rampaging through there. The Police were called and the wrong owner was contacted. They eventually did get the owner and the owner of those horses in in the field not with the permission of the land owner so they can’t do anything about it.

“Some years ago we had a meeting with the gypsy community, RSPCA and police to find out if there is any land available that these gypsies could rent or buy to put their horses on. The man from the RSPCA came up with the idea that he would get some funding to chip these horses and passport them so nothing ever happened after that meeting.

“What I want is notices put up on spare ground in Monkton, not a little notice, I want a big notice knocked into the ground that says horses are not allowed.”

Richard Brown responded saying: “I don’t think those experiences have held the council in a particularly good light. I’ll apologise on behalf of the officers because that isn’t what you should be experiencing.

“I think going forward, what we need to look at isn’t just enforcement, we need to work with the police, with gypsy liaison officers, things like signs.

“We want prevention as the start, we don’t want to just take horses away, we want to stop it happening in the first place. I think that is going to be a wider piece of work than just having a horse warden to take them off.

“It might be that we want to look at providing opportunities or facilitating grazing arrangements, I don’t know. There is a piece of work to do here and we have the advantage that Carmarthenshire is well ahead of us on this. They have had some significant problems down in Llanelli where roads have been closed for several days at a time because horses have got loose down one of the main roads.

“I think we probably are going to have to bit the bullet and get a few horses picked up to let people know that we are serious and that if they do leave them there, there are going to be consequences. I think at the moment they have done it without fear of consequences.”

It was pointed out that since Carmarthen had introduced the Control of Horses act, the number of seizures had reduced from 38 in 2014 to just 4 so far in 2016.

Sgt Geraint Lewis added: “The problem you have from a police perspective is that we are going there to educate and then we look at the enforcement side of it; if we can’t enforce what we’ve actually educated it will have no impact whatsoever. We’ve got no powers to enforce fly grazing.

“If you’ve got a report of horses in the night on a main road and they attend, it is difficult for them to actually deal with that if you’ve got no one to come along and move the horses from the highway.

“The police then are in a difficult position; either we stay there for hours on end closing both sides of the road or you look at a common sense procedure to alleviate the problem and put them into the nearest field, that then obviously causes problems if there are issues within that field and there are bills coming to Dyfed- Powys Police for damage to field where horses have been placed into so there is not an easy fix in any shape or form to this.”

Cllr Brian Hall added: “Prevention is the way forward. The last thing the police want to deal with is if one of these horses gets out, and the council wouldn’t want it, because then the gates would be open, because we would liable if it’s on our land for any claims and I wouldn’t want you or us to deal with any fatality.”

Sgt Lewis highlighted that the problem was not just relevant to Pembroke and listed a number of statistics for other areas of the county.

He told the committee that there were 17 calls to stray horses on the road in Kilgetty in the last eighteen months and 9 in Tenby and Milford Haven. There were also 24 in Pembroke, 18 in Pembroke Dock and 5 in Haverfordwest.

Sgt Lewis added: “The problem you’ve got is that it’s taking officers an awful long time to deal with these problems. It’s taking officers an hour and 22 minutes on average to deal with each call of horses. That’s an awful lot of police time dealt with horses.”

Richard Brown said that staff would be trained as quickly as they possibly can.

Cllr Lyn Jenkins said: “The people who have these horses are not stupid. They know the law and I am sure they know that if you come along with a blue light there is nothing you can do apart from get them to make the horse safe and you’re not going to prosecute them.”

Cllr Brian Hall said unless they made an example the issue would go on and on.

Cllr Tony Wilcox added that the issue could not be ignored and that it had to be addressed.

It is hoped that the number of complaints will go down once the new policy is put in place but there are still concerns as to how it will be dealt with.

 

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Starmer under fire as Plaid demands resignation over Mandelson vetting row

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Liz Saville Roberts says Prime Minister must go after claims Peter Mandelson failed security checks before being cleared by Foreign Office officials

SIR KEIR STARMER is facing fresh calls to quit after reports emerged that Lord Peter Mandelson initially failed security vetting before being appointed Britain’s ambassador to the United States.

Plaid Cymru has now joined the growing chorus demanding the Prime Minister’s resignation, with the party’s Westminster leader Liz Saville Roberts accusing him of presiding over a scandal that strikes at the heart of trust, judgement and accountability in government.

The row erupted after reports claimed UK Security Vetting refused Mandelson clearance during the Developed Vetting process, only for officials at the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office to step in and override that decision. Days later, Mandelson was informed that he had passed.

Saville Roberts said the affair suggested political convenience had been allowed to trump proper scrutiny. She said the public had been misled and argued that if documents are now being kept back from Parliament, the damage to confidence in government will only deepen.

The controversy is especially serious because Starmer had previously insisted due process had been followed and that Mandelson had received independent security clearance for the role. Those assurances are now under intense pressure, with opposition parties demanding a full explanation of who knew about the failed vetting, and when.

Downing Street has responded by claiming that neither the Prime Minister nor ministers were told Mandelson had been granted Developed Vetting against official advice until earlier this week. A government spokesperson said the decision was taken by Foreign Office officials, not politicians, and said Starmer had ordered officials to establish the full facts before updating the House of Commons.

But the political fallout is intensifying fast. Mandelson’s appointment had already been mired in controversy because of his past links to Jeffrey Epstein, and the latest revelations have raised still more questions about why such a high-profile diplomatic posting was handled in this way.

For Plaid Cymru, the issue is no longer just about Mandelson. It is about whether the Prime Minister can still be believed when he says standards were upheld. With Westminster already braced for further document releases and more questions in Parliament, Labour now finds itself battling claims of a cover-up as well as a catastrophic failure of judgement.

 

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First Minister faces the Herald: Withybush, schools, and farming under the spotlight

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Eluned Morgan sat down in Milford Haven for a wide-ranging interview with The Herald as voters in Ceredigion Penfro prepare to decide who they trust on the NHS, education, rural Wales and the future of west Wales

IN a major pre-election interview with The Herald, First Minister Eluned Morgan defended Labour’s record in Wales while facing direct questioning on the future of Withybush Hospital, job shortages for newly qualified NHS staff, declining school standards, farming anger, rural school closures, youth violence and environmental failures. In a conversation lasting more than half an hour, she made a series of promises — but also stopped short of giving cast-iron guarantees on some of the issues causing greatest concern in Pembrokeshire.

MILFORD HAVEN became the stage for one of the most important political interviews of the Senedd election campaign this week, as First Minister Eluned Morgan sat down with The Herald to answer the questions many west Wales voters are asking.

With just weeks to go before polling day, the interview cut straight to the issues dominating life in Pembrokeshire and beyond: the future of Withybush Hospital, the state of the NHS, school discipline and standards, pressure on family farms, the fallout from youth violence, river pollution, housing delays and whether Labour, after decades in power in Wales, can still credibly promise change.

From the outset, the Herald challenged the First Minister on the central argument now being made by many disillusioned voters — that Labour has had long enough.

Morgan’s answer was clear: she insisted that Labour remains the only party with the experience to govern responsibly, and warned that opposition parties were making promises they could not afford to keep. But while she repeatedly defended her government’s record, she also conceded on at least one key point that standards in Welsh schools today are “not” good enough.

That exchange alone will resonate with many parents.

But it was the future of Withybush that dominated much of the interview.

Morgan rejected repeated warnings that the hospital is under threat, accusing political opponents of raising closure fears at every election. She said Withybush is not going to close and pointed to millions of pounds already spent on fire safety and concrete repairs. She also claimed there would be more same-day emergency care, more cancer care and more orthopaedic surgery at the site.

Yet when pressed on whether she could rule out any further downgrading of services, the answer was notably less firm. Morgan said such decisions ultimately sit with the health board rather than politicians, while arguing that some highly specialist services may need to be centralised if patients are to see the best surgeons available.

That answer is unlikely to settle nerves in Pembrokeshire, where concern over the long-term future of local hospital services remains deeply rooted.

The Herald also put to the First Minister an increasingly difficult contradiction for Welsh Labour: how can ministers talk about recruitment shortages in the NHS while newly qualified nurses, paramedics and midwives are being told there may be no jobs for them in Wales?

Morgan said NHS staffing had increased by 12 per cent in five years and argued that the current situation reflected a mismatch between recruitment, retirements and specialist vacancies. She said she was confident the problem would “shake out”, but for many students and graduates facing uncertainty right now, that may sound more like hope than a plan.

The pressure did not ease when the discussion turned to waiting times. The Herald raised the example of a 10-and-a-half-hour wait in A&E at Withybush, with not enough seats and people reportedly sitting on the floor. Morgan argued Wales had been slower to recover after the pandemic because it had taken a more cautious approach, but said long waits were coming down and promised improved access to primary care and same-day mental health support if Labour is returned to office.

On dentistry, she acknowledged the depth of the problem. Asked about a woman who had waited three years for NHS dental treatment and was then offered a dentist in Carmarthen, Morgan admitted many dentists had left the public sector for more lucrative private work. Her answer was to point to contract changes and plans for a new dental school in Wales, with hopes that more rural trainees could eventually be kept in west Wales.

Education brought one of the interview’s clearest moments. Asked directly whether Welsh schools are good enough today, Morgan answered with a blunt “no”.

She said the pandemic had damaged attendance, resilience and behaviour, and argued that Labour had responded with free school meals, uniform support and more mental health help in schools. But the admission itself was striking, especially when set against Labour’s long period in office.

The Herald then turned the conversation to west Wales specifically, including concern over standards in Pembrokeshire and the shocking recent incident at Milford Haven School in which a teacher was stabbed. Morgan described that incident as “utterly unacceptable” and said behaviour must improve, while also pointing to investment in school buildings and plans for a new school for Milford Haven.

On rural schools, however, her response was less interventionist. Asked whether she accepted that the closure of a rural school weakens the whole community, Morgan acknowledged their importance but said such decisions must ultimately be made by local councils.

The interview also tackled a subject that has become impossible to ignore in west Wales: youth violence. In the wake of the Tenby stabbings, Morgan said what had happened was “utterly unacceptable” and argued that visible policing and stronger youth support were needed. But when asked plainly whether youth services in west Wales are strong enough right now, she did not give a straightforward yes. Instead, she said some areas were doing well while others needed strengthening.

Farming was another major flashpoint.

The Herald put to the First Minister the anger and anxiety felt by many family farmers over the Sustainable Farming Scheme, and the widespread belief that Welsh Labour has made rural communities feel attacked rather than supported. Morgan rejected that view, saying farmers are receiving more support than ever from the Welsh Government, with hundreds of millions of pounds going into the sector.

But she also insisted that public money must come with public benefit, arguing that farming support must help tackle climate change and environmental damage as well as food production.

Her most politically charged remarks came when she linked current farming pain to Brexit, saying many farmers had voted for promises that had not been kept and were now paying the price. That argument may appeal to Labour supporters, but it is unlikely to calm resentment in a sector that often feels talked at rather than listened to.

The spread of the new enlarged Senedd and the redrawing of the electoral map also featured in the interview. Morgan argued that having more Senedd members was necessary if Welsh democracy was to function properly, despite public frustration over the cost. She also sought to turn geography into an advantage, telling voters that having a First Minister who lives in west Wales means the region has a direct voice “at the top table”.

That was part of a wider effort to present herself as a leader still in mid-delivery rather than a tired incumbent. Morgan repeatedly stressed that she has only been First Minister for around 18 months and pointed to social housing, women’s health hubs, free school meals and reduced waiting lists as evidence she is already delivering change.

For Pembrokeshire readers, though, the most significant parts of the interview may have been her commitments on local healthcare, transport, jobs and infrastructure.

Morgan spoke of the potential for a new west Wales hospital, better primary care access, a proper transport plan for every health board and the long-term economic opportunity of green energy and Freeport-linked investment. She also backed major infrastructure to unlock those opportunities, including pylons, while acknowledging that communities affected by them should be compensated.

That position sets up a clear dividing line in west Wales politics: economic development versus landscape concerns, urgency versus caution.

The discussion ended where it began — at Withybush.

Asked one final time whether she could rule out further downgrading, Morgan again declined to offer a simple guarantee. Instead, she returned to the language of planning, health board responsibility and the need for safe transport to specialist care.

For readers in Pembrokeshire, that may be the clearest takeaway of all.

The First Minister came to Milford Haven with firm talking points, some big promises and a strong defence of Labour’s record. But under questioning from The Herald, she also made important admissions, particularly on school standards, and left some of the biggest local fears only partly answered.

As the election nears, voters will decide whether that is enough.

Five key takeaways from the Herald interview

Withybush remains the number one concern
Morgan insisted the hospital is not closing and said more services are coming, but stopped short of ruling out all future downgrading.

A blunt admission on schools
Asked if Welsh schools are good enough today, the First Minister said no.

NHS jobs contradiction exposed
The Herald challenged Labour on shortages in the NHS while newly qualified staff face uncertainty over jobs.

Farmers offered money — but not comfort
Morgan said farmers are receiving more support than ever, but defended environmental conditions and blamed Brexit for much of the pressure.

Labour’s pitch is experience over risk
Morgan’s core argument was that Labour may be imperfect, but the alternatives are promising what they cannot deliver.

Promises made in Milford Haven

  • Withybush Hospital will stay open
  • More same-day emergency care, cancer care and orthopaedic support at Withybush
  • A long-term ambition for a new west Wales hospital
  • Access to a primary care professional within 48 hours for urgent cases
  • Same-day mental health support under Labour’s plans
  • Continued pursuit of major green energy and infrastructure investment in west Wales

 

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Carmarthenshire firefighters rescue trapped lambs in late-night callout

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Crew from Kidwelly Fire Station worked for more than two hours to free three lambs stuck deep inside a stone culvert

FIREFIGHTERS in Carmarthenshire rescued three trapped lambs during a late-night callout in Kidwelly on Wednesday (Apr 15).

Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service said the crew from Kidwelly Fire Station was called to Monksford Street at 9:39pm after the animals became stuck around 20 metres down a stone water culvert, believed to be between 3 and 4 metres underground.

Firefighters used a hose inflation kit, general purpose lines, shovels and spades to dig several holes, locate the culvert and safely retrieve the lambs.

The incident showed what the service described as excellent initiative by the Carmarthenshire crew, who worked carefully to bring the animals back to the surface.

The crew remained at the scene until 11:46pm.

A photograph released afterwards shows the Kidwelly firefighters with two of the lambs before they were safely returned to their owner.

Kidwelly firefighters with two of the rescued lambs after the late-night incident in Carmarthenshire (Pic: MWWFRS)

 

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