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Dock man ‘deserves every day of his sentence’, top judges rule

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Inside: Nathan Shane Price

Inside: Nathan Shane Price

A PEMBROKE DOCK man who was jailed after stealing £80,000 worth of metal – and trying to sell it for only £600 – deserves every day of his sentence, top judges ruled.

Nathan Shane Price, 21, of Waterloo Caravan Park, stole from aircraft interior makers, United Aerospace Ltd, at Pembroke Dock, last October.

The haul comprised valuable aluminium parts, yet bungling Price tried to sell the swag for just £600 at a local scrapyard.

He was caught in the act and, after he admitted burglary, was jailed for two years at Swansea Crown Court last November.

Lawyers for Price today argued on appeal that the term was too tough – but three top judges in London said it was richly deserved for the planned crime.

Judge Keith Cutler told the Court of Appeal that Price had used his van to break open gates and transport the items away.

He was unloading the metal from the back of the van at a scrapyard when police arrested him the following day.

‘This was clearly a burglary of items of high value and one which involved a significant amount of pre-planning,’ said the judge.

‘He had the van with him to transport the items and wore gloves for the purpose.’

Price’s legal team argued that the sentence did not properly take into account his early guilty plea, the fact he was only 19 at the time and that he had never been in prison.

He also had care responsibilities for his father, who has health difficulties, Judge Cutler, Lord Justice Elias and Mr Justice Nicol were told.

Rejecting his case, Judge Cutler said the offence had been committed in breach of a conditional discharge – also imposed for metal theft.

‘In all the circumstances, we don’t consider that this sentence was manifestly excessive and we dismiss the appeal,’ he concluded.

8 Comments

8 Comments

  1. GypoGuy

    February 10, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    Good enough for him. He’s a disgrace to the travelling community where we try to live honest lives. Rest assured once he returns from his sentence he’ll be getting a fucking good hiding from a few of us as well.

    It goes against everything he’s been taught…NEVER EVER STEAL….and try to sell it in your own locality, take it somewhere up the line where nobody knows ya!

  2. Ben

    February 10, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    Thanks for that. I suppose an honest job is out of the question?

  3. angry of pembrokeshire

    February 10, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    Got to laugh at Gypoguy above, NEVER EVER STEAL and sell in your locality, but he does not mean, never ever steal and sell in your own locality, he means yeah steal away but make sure you sell well away from the area, laughable.Hopefully the police will have seen his comment too isn\\’t that threatening behaviour to promise the idiot in question a hiding, all because he pooped on his own doorstepwhat a pair wallies!!!

  4. gunga-din

    February 10, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Good on the judges – I hope he is in a two bed cell with ‘big Leroy’ so he walks funny on release – GypoGuy you make me laugh I have been ripped off 4 times by local gypos and now prefer to transport anything I have to the council skips and get nothing for it rather than let you lot near it – the Prices have ripped me off twice nice family

  5. mary

    February 10, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    Well he done the crime he doing the time gypoguy and who going to give he a hiding if U rink U can do it try and do it and put a shame to the travelling community you shames ur self up not Nathan shame so who ever put this up gypoguy ur from Pembrokeshire and we now who done this

  6. Price

    February 11, 2015 at 10:02 am

    Leave the boy alone he done the crime now he will do the time people do worst !!! He can\\’t defend himself ATM !! An for those that don\\’t no Nathan he\\’s a lovely boy and is well liked !! And as for slating the price family my partner is a price and yes they r a nice family !!!! So keep ur opinions to urself Nd keep using council skips !!! Small minded ppl

  7. sister

    February 12, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    Just went to see me Bro nathan and I told him wot the gypoguy put he sed to tell yous all he’s a proper gypsy and hes not a wiedo like yous lot and if your that good of a traveller tell him who you are and if you think you can give him a beating then tray it you no good for Nuffin mumper!!! And just to let yous now he’s doing just fine in prison just in case yous are all wandering.

  8. Joe Baldry

    March 8, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Thieving gypsy bastard. Should have been made an example of and given a proper, long-term sentence as a deterrent to thieving scum. I bet it was one of his lot who stole the statue down at Neyland marina.

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Debate over 20mph speed limit continues in Pembrokeshire

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CONCERNS over road safety and public backlash have led Wrexham Council to take a cautious approach to increasing speed limits on dozens of roads—but will Pembrokeshire follow suit?

Following widespread opposition to the Welsh Government’s blanket 20mph policy, councils across Wales, including Pembrokeshire, have been reviewing the limits. In Wrexham, a public consultation revealed overwhelming support for restoring 30mph limits on 52 roads, but councillors are proceeding with caution, citing safety concerns.

Pembrokeshire residents voice frustration

While Wrexham moves toward changes, Pembrokeshire County Council has yet to announce a firm decision on altering its 20mph zones, despite strong opposition in key areas such as Johnston, Haverfordwest, and Milford Haven.

A public consultation in Pembrokeshire allowed residents to request changes up until October 2024, and many raised concerns about longer journey times, impact on businesses, and emergency response delays. A petition was even submitted calling for the A4076 in Johnston to be exempt from the lower limit, arguing that the road is a major route with suitable pedestrian infrastructure.

One local business owner in Haverfordwest told The Herald: “It’s just not practical on some of these roads. We need sensible speed limits, not a blanket approach.”

20mph sign at St Dogmaels was welcomed by many residents

Government admits mistakes

The Welsh Government introduced the 20mph speed limit in September 2023, claiming it would reduce accidents and improve safety for pedestrians and cyclists. Initial data suggests there were 100 fewer deaths or serious injuries on affected roads.

However, in December 2024, government officials admitted that mistakes had been made in rolling out the policy, following widespread backlash across Wales. Pembrokeshire councillors, including Paul Miller, cabinet member for economy and transport, have acknowledged public frustration but stress the need to balance safety with practicality.

Will Pembrokeshire follow Wrexham’s lead?

In Wrexham, Councillor Dave Bithell has urged caution, warning that increasing speed limits could heighten accident risks. Wrexham aims to finalize its review by May, working alongside North Wales Police to manage any changes.

With strong opposition from some Pembrokeshire communities, it remains to be seen whether the county council will reverse course on certain roads or maintain the lower speed limits.

The Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA) has acknowledged that while some communities back the 20mph policy, others remain strongly against it. The question now is whether Pembrokeshire’s roads will see similar changes to those being considered in Wrexham.

Should Pembrokeshire reconsider its 20mph limits? The Herald wants to hear your views.

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Excluding pupils for knives ‘too simple’, says Estyn chief

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A SCHOOL should understand why a pupil brings a knife in rather than relying on blanket exclusions, the chief inspector of Welsh education watchdog Estyn has said.

Owen Evans said the “easy answer” was to exclude pupils, but insisted the issue needed a more nuanced approach.

He argued there were multiple reasons why a child might bring a weapon to school and that a one-size-fits-all policy would not work.

However, Neil Butler, national officer for Wales at the NASUWT union, called the suggestion “most unhelpful” and said immediate exclusions should be the priority to protect pupils and staff.

School attack in Ammanford

Mr Evans’ comments follow the conviction of a 14-year-old girl for the attempted murder of three people during a stabbing at a school in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire.

Estyn chief inspector Owen Evans (Image: BBC)

“You may have a child that has every potential for redemption but they have fallen into bad practice, and we cannot exclude those people from society,” he told the BBC’s Walescast.

“A lot of children who bring knives to school feel threatened themselves or believe others are carrying weapons.

“We need to tackle the root causes behind these decisions,” he added.

While knife crime in Welsh schools is rare, Mr Evans said lessons needed to be learned.

Bridgend council has announced an inquiry after police were called to Bryntirion Comprehensive last week when a knife was reportedly found in a pupil’s bag.

Union backs tough action

Speaking to BBC Radio Wales, Mr Butler acknowledged the importance of understanding why children bring weapons to school but said the approach could not be “nuanced”.

He described Mr Evans’ concerns about exclusion pushing pupils out of society as “nonsense” and insisted that removing offenders from schools was necessary for safety.

“If a child who has carried a knife into school remains there while psychologists assess them, they continue to pose a danger to others,” he said.

“Exclusion doesn’t mean the end of education—it means education in a more suitable setting outside of mainstream schools.”

He added: “We must be clear: carrying a knife has consequences. That means immediate exclusion.

“It’s as simple as that—we have to nip this in the bud before it escalates further.”

Rising behavioural issues

Estyn is preparing to release its annual report on the state of education and training in Wales, with concerns over increasing behavioural problems.

Mr Evans said: “Since the pandemic, we are seeing young children coming into school unable to communicate or even potty trained.”

He called for more support for pupils and teachers but acknowledged a lack of resources.

“Strong leadership, clear and consistently applied behaviour policies, and good family support can make a real difference,” he said.

Wales’ Education Secretary, Lynne Neagle, has announced a behavioural summit next year to tackle the “complex” issues facing schools.

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Former Plaid Cymru leader Dafydd Elis-Thomas dies aged 78

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Tributes pour in for ‘Senedd’s founding father’

FORMER Plaid Cymru leader and Senedd Presiding Officer Lord Elis-Thomas has died at the age of 78, his family has announced.

Dafydd Elis-Thomas led Plaid Cymru between 1984 and 1991 and served as MP for Meirionydd and later Meirionydd Nant Conwy from 1974 until 1992, when he was appointed to the House of Lords.

He made history in 1999 as the first Presiding Officer of the newly established Welsh Assembly, now the Senedd, a role in which he helped shape Wales’ modern political landscape. Flags will fly at half-mast outside the Senedd in Cardiff Bay as a mark of respect.

A POLITICAL MAVERICK

Known for his independent streak, Lord Elis-Thomas often clashed with Plaid Cymru’s leadership and left the party in 2016. He later served as a minister in both Carwyn Jones and Mark Drakeford’s Welsh Labour governments, despite remaining unaffiliated with the party.

He stepped away from frontline politics in 2021, retiring after decades of service to Welsh public life.

A FAMILY’S LOSS

In a statement, his family said he died “peacefully at his home” on Friday morning after a short illness. “The family request privacy at this difficult time.”

POLITICAL TRIBUTES

First Minister Eluned Morgan led tributes, calling Lord Elis-Thomas “one of Wales’ greatest political figures.”

“Dafydd was a true giant of Welsh politics and a passionate champion of our nation, our language, and our culture,” she said.

Plaid Cymru leader Rhun ap Iorwerth described his passing as “a huge loss to Welsh politics and civic life.”

“Dafydd made a priceless contribution in laying the foundations of devolution. He was a ground-breaking MP and led Plaid Cymru with passion and distinction,” he said.

Senedd Presiding Officer Elin Jones said: “It is hard to imagine Welsh political life without him. Dafydd was always at the heart of our democracy, shaping and challenging it in equal measure.”

Liz Saville-Roberts, Plaid Cymru MP for Dwyfor Meirionnydd, said: “He was a tremendous figure in Welsh public life whose passion for our democracy inspired so many.”

Former Welsh Labour minister Lee Waters described him as “an amazing character” who played a pivotal role in modern Welsh politics. “I liked him a lot, even though he could be maddening. Very sad news.”

Welsh Conservative leader Darren Millar MS said: “Lord Elis-Thomas was a titan of Welsh politics. His deep love for Wales and its people was undeniable.”

Andrew RT Davies, his predecessor, added: “He was always forthright and robust when expressing his views, and for that, I admired him strongly.”

A LASTING LEGACY

Lord Elis-Thomas’ influence on Welsh politics is undeniable, from his leadership of Plaid Cymru to his role in establishing the Senedd. His passing marks the end of an era for Welsh political life, but his legacy will endure for generations to come.

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