News
Committee rejects Ocky White sale price
COUNCILLORS have overwhelmingly stated they feel the sale price of £460,000 for the Ocky White building in Haverfordwest does not represent good value for money.
When it was agreed at a meeting of the Cabinet in September that the Council should go ahead with acquiring the building many people were left angry at the decision.
Three days later after that meeting, Cllrs Jacob Williams, Mike Stoddart, Viv Stoddart, Mike Evans, Pearl Llewellyn and Phil Kidney called in Cabinet’s decision saying it was poor value for taxpayers money and that it does not present the full financial picture.
The matter was then brought to an extraordinary meeting of the Services Overview and Scrutiny Committee held on Friday, September 28.
Before discussion took place members were presented with an option of discussing the matter in open session or in private as two documents had been classed as restricted.
Cllr Phil Kidney said he was ‘very keen’ for the matter to be held in open session as it was a ‘very large amount of money’.
The Councils’ Head of Legal Services Claire Incledon told members that the parties involved had asked for the documents to be restricted.
Cllr Jamie Adams said they had to respect those wishes and proposed that the meeting be held in open session and go into private session to discuss the restricted document if necessary. That was approved unanimously.
Cllr Jacob Williams said there hadn’t been much scrutiny at Cabinet and said it represented poor value to taxpayers. He also said that the price agreed of £460,000 was ‘vastly over the top’ and described it as ‘scandalous’.
He added: “The significance of the building is overhyped. It has a listed building as an annex and we would be rewarding a property owner of a not particularly attractive building with taxpayers’ money.
“I have not yet seen a positive public comment on this proposal. People say this will be a waste of millions of pounds, the purchase price is too high and there is a lot of resentment to the council spending £460,000 on the back of the 12.5% hike in council tax.
“People have said to me the price agreed is way too high, that it has been up for sale and attracted no interest and that it is worth a maximum of £100,000.”
Cllr Mike Stoddart added: “We are offering £460,000 spending £3m on it and ending up with asset of £750,000, even with the Welsh Government loan it is still a bad deal.”
Cllr Viv Stoddart explained that at a meeting of the strategic asset management group in July there were serious concerns that the figures didn’t stack up and called for the Cabinet to look at this again.
Cllr Mike Evans said that other than this committee they had no involvement in this decision and said once the building was purchased the rates on an empty building would be the councils to pick up. He also said there had been no interest in other buildings in the town and that rents in Haverfordwest had ‘fallen through the floor’.
Cllr Pearl Llewellyn said she had listened to people in her ward who were complaining about vacant buildings in Pembroke such as South Quay and added they had said it was nice to see that some councillors have had the balls to call this in.
Cabinet member Cllr Paul Miller said they had given much greater priority to supporting economy in Pembrokeshire and that the aspiration for Haverfordwest was much wider than this one building.
He added: “The acquisition of Ocky White shouldn’t be viewed in isolation, it is the proposed first step in future for Haverfordwest. The grant award is based on refurbishment and this is the option we have pursued so far.
“We need to buy this building to demonstrate our commitment to the wholesale plan for the redevelopment of the town centre.”
Cllr Jamie Adams said although the scheme had been in the offing for a long time he could not support the decision to invest in the building saying ‘it is incompatible with financial demands’.
Cllr Stephen Joseph said it did not make sense and said he couldn’t back it as it is ‘fundamentally flawed’ adding it was ‘bonkers’ at a time when everyone is feeling the pinch.
Cllr Di Clements added: “Just because Welsh Government money is available it doesn’t me we should go chasing it. This is taxpayers money, I am not sold on this and demolition is probably the way to go.”
She later added that they were being asked to make a ‘huge leap of faith’ as they did not know the final costs or if the building would be occupied.
Cllr Brian Hall said it was a ‘total waste of money’ while Cllr Tony Wilcox suggested the council should get another independent valuation on the building before having another long hard look at it.
Cllr David Pugh said: “Retailing has changed dramatically, just basing it on retail is not going to work. Business rents have dropped dramatically and there just isn’t the demand for it, I do sympathise, it is a huge problem and there isn’t an easy fix. Something needs to be done or we will just end up with another shambles.
“The revenue implications are huge and I really struggle to make sense of this acquisition, the price is far too high, it is not worth a penny and I can’t support spending £460,000 for a building where we don’t know what we’re going to find.”
Haverfordwest Cllr Tim Evans said a lot of these things should have been done 30 years ago but did not support the sale going ahead at the price mentioned.
Head of property Barry Cooke said he would not buy the building at that price saying it was too high but added that the owners won’t sell for anything less than that. “If we can’t acquire the property we will not able to proceed with first step. It is a difficult building to value but we did get them down to £450,000 but they have quoted more than that,” he added.
Cllr Williams went on to ask questions of where the £460,000 figure came from and described it as ‘really bad negotiation’ adding it was ‘very dodgy’ if they were to pay that price for the building.
Cllr Paul Miller explained that although Cabinet resolved to buy the building they would need to some further work on the masterplan.
He said: “If once we have done the work we decide we don’t need Ocky White, it needs to be demolished and we wouldn’t accept the grant and refurbish building.”
Cllr Stoddart said that wasn’t the impression the public got and said he did not want to see the authority with another Cherry Grove on its hands.
Summing up he said it was the view of the committee that there was no problem with the council buying the building but that there was a problem with the price.
Cllr Jamie Adams moved that the Committee does not support the decision of Cabinet due to inevitable ongoing revenue risk and that the purchase price offers poor value for this Council. It was seconded by Cllr Pugh and was passed by a majority with Cllr Alison Tudor voting against.
Local Government
Calls grow for independent investigation into Manorbier school closure
Councillor alleges misleading figures, inadequate insurance and poor treatment of staff
CALLS for an independent investigation into the controversial closure of Manorbier Church in Wales VC School are gathering pace ahead of a full council meeting next week.
Local member Cllr Phil Kidney has submitted a Notice of Motion calling for a full and impartial inquiry into the way Pembrokeshire County Council handled the closure process.

The proposed investigation would examine the length of time taken, alleged broken promises, insurance arrangements and the involvement of the council’s Human Resources department.
Cllr Kidney says the review should be carried out by someone who is not employed by the authority and should have the power to recommend disciplinary action where appropriate.
He said: “A full impartial review should hopefully stop another school being treated so appallingly.”

The call has now been backed by Milford Haven Hakin Reform councillor Scott Thorley, who launched a strongly worded attack on the authority’s handling of the school.
Writing on Facebook, Cllr Thorley said: “The council’s treatment of this school is shocking. Misleading figures, manufactured pupil numbers, totally inadequate insurance and the worst thing was the treatment of the staff.”
The claims have not yet been independently established, but they add to growing pressure on the council to explain how the school’s closure was handled and why the fire-damaged building was not fully reinstated.
Manorbier School and the adjoining schoolhouse were severely damaged by fire in October 2022, with pupils subsequently moved to a temporary “school from school” at Jameston Village Hall.
Although campaigners had hoped the original school would be rebuilt, councillors later backed a statutory process to discontinue it.
The proposal attracted strong opposition, with more than 1,500 people signing a petition calling for the school to be rebuilt and more than 90 per cent of consultation respondents opposing closure.
At a special meeting on June 15, councillors voted by 30 votes to 23, with four abstentions, to proceed with the final steps towards closure.

The Diocese of St Davids also opposed the decision and warned that legal action, including judicial review, could follow.
Questions remain over the insurance cover in place at the time of the fire, the true cost of rebuilding or closing the school, disputed pupil and surplus-place figures, and the treatment of staff during the process.

Pembrokeshire County Council has previously said the Leader has asked the Governance and Audit Committee to review the authority’s insurance position.
Cllr Kidney is also seeking an apology from Cllr Paul Miller, the council’s deputy leader and Cabinet Member for Education.
He has asked whether Cllr Miller will apologise to staff and parents for comments made at the June meeting, including claims that children would receive a better education at St Florence and that Manorbier pupils were being taught in one room.
Cllr Kidney described those comments as factually wrong and insulting to staff who had worked to maintain education standards after the fire.
Both the motion for an investigation and the request for an apology are due to be considered when full council meets on Thursday (Jul 16).
Local Government
Memorial bench unveiled in honour of former councillor Mike Stoddart
AN EMOTIONAL gathering was held at Hubberston and Hakin Community Centre as family, friends and volunteers came together to remember the late Mike Stoddart last week.
Members of Mike’s family joined Community Centre trustees and volunteers to commemorate a memorial bench installed in the centre’s Memorial Garden.
Mike, affectionately known as “Old Grumpy”, died on January 4, 2026, aged 85.
Alongside his many years of service as the county councillor for Hakin, Mike was also a dedicated trustee of the Community Centre and worked tirelessly on behalf of local residents.

The inscription on the bench describes it as “a place to sit and remember” and recognises Mike’s contribution as a centre trustee.
The Community Centre said it had been an emotional but special evening and thanked everyone who attended to pay tribute.
Similar memorials are also being planned to honour the late Eric Harries and John Morgan, recognising their own service and contribution to the community.

Community
Fire service issues safety warning as extreme heat raises wildfire risk
MID AND WEST WALES FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE is urging residents and visitors to take extra care as extreme heat and prolonged dry conditions increase the risk of wildfires and water-related emergencies.
The warning follows the issuing of a red extreme heat alert for parts of Wales, with exceptionally high temperatures forecast and emergency services preparing for added pressure in the days ahead.
Fire chiefs say the hot, dry weather has left grassland and vegetation particularly vulnerable, meaning even a small spark could develop into a fast-moving countryside fire.
Aled Griffiths, Head of Community Safety for Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service, said: “With very high temperatures forecast across Wales this week, it’s important that we all take extra care to stay safe and reduce avoidable risks.
“We want everyone to enjoy the sunshine, but these conditions can increase the likelihood of incidents, including fires and water-related emergencies.
“Small actions can make a big difference, whether that’s using barbecues safely, disposing of smoking materials responsibly or taking extra care around open water.”

Barbecue and outdoor fire safety
Anyone using a barbecue is being advised to place it on a flat, non-combustible surface, well away from buildings, fences, dry grass and shrubs.
Barbecues should never be left unattended and must be completely extinguished and allowed to cool before ashes are disposed of.
The public is also being asked not to light campfires or other open fires, particularly in rural areas where dry vegetation can allow flames to spread rapidly.
Cigarettes, matches and glass bottles should never be discarded in the countryside.
The fire service has also reminded residents that burning grass or garden waste is prohibited at this time of year.
Open water warning
The hot weather is also expected to encourage more people to swim in lakes, rivers, reservoirs and other open water.
However, the fire service warned that water temperatures can remain dangerously cold even during periods of extreme heat.
Cold water shock can cause an involuntary gasp, rapid breathing, panic and a sudden loss of swimming ability, significantly increasing the risk of drowning.
People are advised never to jump or dive into unfamiliar water and not to enter open water after drinking alcohol.
Float to Live
Anyone who gets into difficulty in the water should:
- Tilt their head back, keeping their ears submerged
- Relax and try to breathe normally
- Move their hands and legs gently to remain afloat
- Avoid panicking if their legs begin to sink
Once breathing is under control, they should call for help or attempt to swim to safety.
The fire service recommends practising floating in a supervised environment, such as a swimming pool.
Phone, Float, Throw
Anyone who sees another person in difficulty should remain on land and follow the Phone, Float, Throw advice:
- Phone 999 and ask for the emergency services
- Encourage the person to remain calm and float on their back
- Throw rescue equipment or another floating object towards them
Members of the public should not enter the water themselves, as this can place both people in danger.
Further wildfire and water safety advice is available through Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service’s website and social media channels.
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