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First Minister grilled about £4.8bn benefit cuts

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SENEDD Members pressed Wales’ First Minister about the Labour UK Government plans to slash spending on welfare by £4.8bn a year by the end of the decade.

Plaid Cymru’s Llŷr Gruffydd questioned Eluned Morgan about reforms announced in this week’s spring statement during a scrutiny committee meeting on March 27.

He said: “Disabled people are particularly going to be hit by this. Three million families are going to lose out financially, a quarter of a million people are going to be thrown into poverty, 50,000 of those children. Why did you support the changes?”

“Hang on, let’s be clear,” the First Minister responded. “This is a non-devolved area, so I am not accountable for what goes on in relation to the welfare situation.

“What I do know is that it would be a good thing to have more people in work in Wales, our employment is not nearly as good as some other countries.”

Baroness Morgan told the committee she was yet to receive a response to a letter she sent Liz Kendall, the UK work and pensions secretary, seeking clarity on the impact in Wales.

“I don’t think trapping people in welfare poverty is a great position either,” she said. “I think we’ve got to support people to get out of the poverty trap.”

Pressed on whether she supports the changes outlined by the UK chancellor, Baroness Morgan replied: “I’m yet to get a firm understanding of how that will impact on Wales and until I’m clear about the impacts I want to reserve my position in relation to that.”

Mr Gruffydd countered: “Well, that’s very different to what the secretary of state said because she’s on record as saying ‘the First Minister wrote supporting the reforms and I was really pleased to see backing for those reforms’. So is she wrong?”

Plaid Cymru MS Llyr Gruffydd
Plaid Cymru MS Llyr Gruffydd

The First Minister, who has been in post for about eight months, repeated her position, warning of “huge, unsustainable” increases in the number of people claiming benefits.

Asked about a phone call with No 10 to raise her concerns, Baroness Morgan said she could not remember who she spoke to but it was not prime minister Keir Starmer.

“You can’t even tell us who you spoke with about it?” Mr Gruffydd asked. “You’re the one who was on the phone but you’re not sure who you talked to?”

Baroness Morgan told the committee she speaks to hundreds of people every day and has  “armies of people” who set up meetings, saying she would provide a list of names.

Mr Gruffydd pressed the First Minister on her claims to have influenced welfare reforms, asking precisely what she persuaded the UK Government of.

She responded: “I set out, gave them a sense of the concentration of the numbers of people who are on, in particular, sickness benefits in some of our communities.”

She added: “I’m told afterwards that that did help to inform their decision making.”

Mr Gruffydd warned the reforms will have a disproportionate impact on people, putting a huge strain on services and leaving Wales “floundering to pick up the pieces”.

Baroness Morgan reiterated that she is reserving her judgement, saying: “I just think it’s fascinating that I’m constantly asked about what’s happening in Westminster. Hold me to account for things I’m responsible for.”

Mr Gruffydd said: “But you’re the one who’s been talking about a ‘partnership in power’ between Labour in Cardiff and Labour in London.”

The First Minister pointed to £1.6bn extra for public services in the Welsh Government’s 2025/26 budget as an example of the influence on colleagues in Westminster.

The Conservatives’ Mark Isherwood warned autistic and other neurodivergent people are terrified by the announcement and the implications for their lives.

Conservative MS Mark Isherwood
Conservative MS Mark Isherwood

Andrew Jeffreys, director the Welsh treasury, said the only prior engagement on the reforms was a conversation finance secretary Mark Drakeford had on the morning of the statement.

Mr Gruffydd raised the Welsh Government’s written response to the spring statement, which claimed households will be £500 better off on average by 2030.

Asking how ministers arrived at the figure, he said: “Yet, the Resolution Foundation has said, because the benefits cuts fall disproportionately on lower-income households, it’ll mean an average annual loss of £500 by 2030 for those in the poorest half of the population.”

Baroness Morgan said: “I don’t think there is a contradiction there … the average family will be £500 better off. I recognise that there will be families who will be impacted.”

She reiterated: “Well, look, as I say, we’re days into knowing this situation. We still don’t have a clear picture of how it’s going to impact on us.”

Farming

‘Poor decision’ New Creamston housing condition overturned

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A “POOR DECISION” agricultural worker-only imposed nearly 40 years ago has been removed from a Pembrokeshire property by county planners.

In an application recommended to be approved at the December meeting of Pembrokeshire County council’s planning committee, Tim and Cathy Arthur sought permission for the removal of an agricultural worker-only condition at New Creamson, Creamston Road, near Haverfordwest.

An officer report for members said the agricultural condition was imposed when the dwelling was built in 1988/89, with a later certificate of lawful development granted this year after it was proven the site had been occupied for more than 10 years on breach of that condition.

An application for a certificate of lawfulness allows an applicant to stay at a development if they can provide proof of occupancy over a prolonged period.

Speaking at the meeting, agent Andrew Vaughan-Harries of Hayston Developments & Planning Ltd told members the original agriculture-only condition was a poor decision by planners back nearly four decades ago.

“When this application was made in 1988-89 we go back to the Preseli District Council – I was still in school – it was only a 50-acre farm, it should never have been approved as it shouldn’t have been viable.

“The current applicants have owned it for the last 20 years; they’ve tried to grow apples but couldn’t make a go of it and then went in to holiday lets. We can’t enforce redundant conditions from bad decisions made years ago.”

Approval was moved by Cllr Brian Hall and unanimously supported by committee members.

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‘We are on our own’: Unpaid carers forced to ‘beg’ for support

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UNPAID carers are being left to “pick up the pieces” of a broken system due to a lack of respite, unsafe hospital discharges and carer’s assessments that result in “nothing at all”.

The warning came as the Senedd’s health scrutiny committee began taking evidence for an inquiry on access to support for more than 310,000 unpaid carers across Wales.

Chris Kemp-Philp, from Newport, who has been a carer for 33 years, gave up her career to become a full-time carer after her husband medically retired from the civil service in 1990.

Ms Kemp-Philp, whose husband died in April, told today’s (December 4) meeting: “I thought he’d been really badly treated… The last four months of his life were dreadful for both of us.”

She was only offered an updated carer’s needs assessment – a right under the 2014 Social Services and Wellbeing (Wales) Act – the day after her husband died.

Ms Kemp-Philp did not realise she had become a carer at first. “But, of course, having lost two incomes and to survive on a half civil service pension wasn’t great,” she said.

She told the committee how the couple “shielded” during the pandemic, saying: “For the past five years, basically, apart from going to a hospital or… a medical facility – I didn’t leave the house because if I’d have gone out, I could have brought something home.

“So, we spent five years literally avoiding people. The experience was unpleasant, I had two great-grandchildren born in that time and I only saw them on video.”

Ms Kemp-Philp said her husband was “pingponged” back and forth after unsafe discharges from hospitals in Gwent. He was put in a car by two nurses then she had to get him out on her own at the other end, with clinicians effectively telling her: it’s your problem now.

“Every time he was sent home, nobody came to help at all,” she said, explaining how she struggled to cope and her husband’s death brought a tragic sense of relief.

Judith Russell, who moved back to Wales to care for her mother 23 years ago, told Senedd Members the responsibility grew greater over the years.

Carer Judith Russell
Carer Judith Russell

Ms Russell, whose mother died last Saturday on the eve of her 102nd birthday, told the committee: “It’s been my privilege to care for her but I wish other people—I wish there had been more actual care for her. That’s it.”

Ms Russell also cares for her husband who has Alzheimer’s disease, acts as guardian for her disabled sister and cooks every week for her sister-in-law.

“It’s quite a responsibility,” she said. “My life is taken up with caring. I didn’t actually know I was a carer, I cared for my mother because she was my mother – I looked after her, of course I did – and it wasn’t until about three years ago that I identified as a carer.”

Ms Russell warned: “All through this last 23 years, I’ve had to fight and struggle to find things out… there’s very, very little help out there.”

She said she was given a carer’s assessment earlier this year but “there was nothing they could offer me, quite frankly – nothing at all”.

Ms Russell told Senedd Members: “We had a diagnosis [but] there’s no offer of help, there are no directions to find help, somebody to point you – you should be doing this, this is available, that’s available – nothing, you’re on your own completely.”

She joined the Bridgend carers’ group which opened a door to other people grappling with the same weight of responsibility and helped navigate the system. Ms Kemp-Philp added that joining a similar peer support group saved her life.

Ann Soley, who is originally from France and has been living in Wales for eight years, described how life was turned upside down when her British husband had a stroke.

Ann Soley

She said: “We are stressed, we are lost. A lot of carers have lost their friends, that is just unbelievable for me because I realised society is not there – there is no compassion.”

Kaye Williams, who works at Bridgend carers’ centre and is herself a carer, warned the witnesses’ experiences are commonplace across the country.

Sue Rendell, from Caernarfon, has cared for her husband who has vascular parkinsonism for nearly 14 years and was waiting for a doctor to call as she gave evidence remotely.

She told the committee: “You go in in the morning to see if he’s still breathing to be honest. We’re at the later stages of his disease and it’s physically demanding, it’s mentally demanding and it’s administratively difficult as well… it’s just very wearing.”

Ms Rendell, who was shattered after a late night caring, said she has tried to get respite but has been told there’s nothing available in Gwynedd nor Anglesey for her loved one’s needs.

She told the committee unpaid carers in Wales are “expected to pick up the pieces” but “nothing much happens” after an assessment. “Fine words butter no parsnips,” she said.

Ms Russell added: “As carers, we save the government millions… and I asked for some help this week actually. I’m 258th on the list for a hip replacement… and I asked the doctor: as a carer, couldn’t I possibly go up the list a little bit? ‘No, we’re not allowed to do that.’

“It’s the only thing I’ve ever asked for.”

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‘Sink or swim’: Young carer sat exam hours after 3am hospital ordeal

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A TEENAGE carer sat a GCSE exam only hours after getting home from a hospital at 3am following a family emergency, a Senedd committee has heard.

The warning came as witnesses highlighted a “sink-or-swim” reality where children as young as three are taking on caring roles while feeling invisible to schools and social services.

Elektra Thomas, 15, who cares for her autistic, non-verbal brother and her epileptic sister, was part of a remarkable and articulate trio of teenagers who gave evidence to a new health committee inquiry on access to support for unpaid carers today (December 4).

The teenager helps her brother Blake get ready for school in the morning and helps him communicate by acting as his voice, which she has done since about three years old.

Ms Thomas told Senedd Members her sister has two children, “so I’m either handling her having a seizure, running around with her medication… or I’m looking after her kids”.

She said: “I’ve been having school assessments at the same time she’s had a seizure. I’ve been in ambulances waiting for her to get into a hospital while also studying.”

Ms Thomas explained how she is unable to focus on her schoolwork if her brother has had an overwhelming day. “I can’t focus on myself and I don’t have time for myself,” she said.

The teenager, who is from Carmarthenshire, described how she was once in hospital until 3am then sat a test – which went towards her GCSE grades – that same day.

Ms Thomas warned young carers do not have time to manage their own mental health, saying: “I didn’t have time for myself, I had time for my brother and sister and that was it.”

She said: “As a young carer who wasn’t noticed for a decade, it was pure manic: I had no coping skills, I had no support – and this has been going on since I was about three or four.”

Ffiôn-Hâf Scott, 18, from Wrexham, who is working while studying in sixth form, has similarly been a carer since she was four years old.

“I used to care for my mum and my sister,” she told the committee. “My sister used to be in a psychiatric ward, she was there for seven years.

“And I care for my mum because she’s diabetic, classed as disabled, has a long list of mental health issues, she has in the past suffered a stroke and had cancer.

“I don’t know how she’s still standing.”

Young carer Ffiôn-Hâf Scott
Young carer Ffiôn-Hâf Scott

Ms Scott said: “The main challenge right now is looking after myself and learning that you actually have to keep yourself afloat… to keep looking after someone else.

“I think for a very long time I ran on nothing because of my caring role or I didn’t think about the things I needed to do for me, so respite and things like that.”

The Welsh Youth Parliament member warned a lack of support for young carers has been normalised, saying she has had to explain herself 70 different times while aged 12.

Ms Scott said: “I remember going to my teacher and saying – we had a piece of coursework – look I can’t do this right now… you’re going to have to fail me…

“Their response was just ‘well, you have too much on your plate and you need to take things off your plate’ and I was like: it’s very bold of you to stand where you’re stood and say that to me because it’s not a choice to take on the things that we do take on.”

She recalled receiving a phone call about her mum collapsing moments before a maths test and expressed concerns about the prospect of mobiles being banned in schools.

Albie Sutton, 16, a young carer from north Wales, looks after his disabled mother by doing things such as cleaning the house, budgeting and cooking for the family every day.

Albie Sutton
Albie Sutton

Mr Sutton said: “It’s a real struggle for her to move around the house, to even do stuff like getting dressed or moving to the toilet by herself… so I’ve got to help her.”

The teenager estimated his caring role takes up about 25 hours a week and makes it difficult for him to pursue some of his hobbies such as competing in powerlifting.

“My mind feels like a hive of bees,” he said. “There’s so many things going in and out… I get home at the end of the day and I’m like ‘oh my God, I’ve got to do this, I’ve got to do that’.”

Warning of the mental stress, he added: “It’s also really difficult for me to socialise… I feel very isolated in my caring role, especially at home. I’m always housebound, I never get the opportunity even just to go out in my local town.”

Mr Sutton told Senedd Members it plays on his mind that his younger brother may have to take on responsibility. “It’s got me debating whether I can go to university,” he said.

He called for a Wales-wide campaign to raise awareness among educators and employers of the issues young carers face and how to recognise the signs.

Ms Thomas agreed: “I’ve had multiple teachers look at me and go ‘what’s a young carer, sorry?’. I’ve had pharmacists go ‘are you sure you’re a young carer?’ and it baffles me.”

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