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Pembroke Dock: Town Council in rent payment controversy

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paterPEMBROKE DOCK TOWN COUNCIL is in a dispute with the Pater Hall Trust over its rent payments.

The Town Council has a 25-year lease with the Pater Hall Trust for use of the Pater Hall and other facilities.

However, the Council have been relocated to the Bridge Innovation Centre on a temporary basis and say they will relocate back to the Pater Hall once the ground floor offices are up to a standard which will allow for normal working regulations.

Cllr Phil Gwyther submitted a notice of motion which called for the Council not to break its lease with the Trust by entering into negotiations over a new lease when the new offices are completed.

At the November meeting of the Council, Cllr Gwyther revealed that he had been in contact with the Town Council’s solicitor who had said that it would be a breach of contract if the council stopped paying the rent.

There were also doubts as to whether or not the lease had been signed but again the solicitor said that because the agreement had been in place 10 years the lease was legal regardless of it being signed or not.

At Thursday’s (Jan 14) meeting of the Town Council, Cllr Gwyther’s notice of motion was discussed at length but no agreement was reached and the motion was deferred until the next meeting.

Cllr Gwyther, who is also a member of the Pater Hall Trust, said: “We must not be the legal equivalent of squatters and the council must be legal and proper. If we do maintain the rent the current lease we’ve got is still valid.

“I do feel that the trustees have been put in a very difficult situation and it is very awkward for us.

“As trustees we have to do our duty to the trust and ensure that it is financially viable.

“I know some councillors are keen to stop paying the rent but we haven’t voted as a body to do that. There will need to be a written agreement between the council and trust about the rent because the rental figure was never mentioned in these documents and we have been paying the rent based on a council decision made in 2005.

“When the Trust was set up the Council gave a written guarantee to the charity commissioners that the rental payment was the part that the council would give the trust in order for it to be financially viable.

“I don’t feel we should be breaking our promise with the charity that we made in writing. We should hope that the Trust will keep going.”

Cllr Sue Perkins said: “I am quite concerned that the five trustees have already taken a vote on this and made their decisions because the decisions of what we do should be done in this council and its very obvious that five trustees have already voted on the notice of motion. They should have taken their views to the council first.

“I haven’t seen any legal advice to say that we can’t withdraw funding. If it’s there I am more than happy to see it and then I will make a decision.”

Councillor Tony Wilcox said: “We are here now because the Trust has neglected the Town Council offices when they knew full well that they weren’t occupied.

“The rooms upstairs are unfit for purpose and that’s why we moved out.”

Cllr Gwyther then read part of a letter to the Charities’ commission from the Council in June 2005 but members were unhappy that a copy had not been circulated to them.

Cllr Perkins added that there was ‘no way’ she would vote on the notice of motion and asked for it to be held in abeyance.

Cllr Andrew McNaughton suggested that the council should pay the rent for the coming month before discussing the matter again.

Cllr Gwyther said his notice of motion was about principles and not about the money but that was challenged by Cllr Perkins who said that the Trust relied on the Town Council.

It was also revealed that the council paid £1820 for the office and a further £1560 for the chamber which they had not been using.

The Town Council had agreed to pay £7000 in rent for the first three years but that was not reviewed.

After a lengthy debate it was agreed that the matter would be deferred until the next meeting of the council.

 

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  1. Terry

    January 17, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    councillors, don’t you just love them for being so loud and proud about their stupidity

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Knife allegation after clash with enforcement officers

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Castlemorris man denies affray and criminal damage charges

A PEMBROKESHIRE man has appeared before magistrates accused of threatening enforcement officers with a knife during an incident at his home near Mathry.

Simon Coll, 59, is charged with affray and two counts of criminal damage following the incident at Pant y Blodau, Castlemorris, in the early hours of February 26.

Prosecutor Sian Vaughan told Haverfordwest magistrates this week that three Excel enforcement officers had attended the property to secure vehicles.

“The officers had a conversation about securing some of the vehicles at the property, and then knocked on the door wearing body worn cameras,” she said.

“The defendant opened the door and immediately became aggressive towards them, brandishing a knife, and asking, ‘Do you want some?’”

Body worn camera footage was shown to the magistrates, in which the enforcement officers could be seen running away while shouting at Coll to put down the knife.

Coll is further accused of causing £387 worth of damage to a windscreen and wheel clamp belonging to Excel Enforcement.

He denies all three charges.

Although magistrates agreed to retain jurisdiction, Coll elected for trial by jury.

The case has now been sent to Swansea Crown Court, where proceedings are due to begin on Friday (May 8). Coll was released on unconditional bail.

 

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Pembroke woman denies assault charge

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Defendant accused of assaulting woman at Pembroke Leisure Centre and will stand trial in June

A PEMBROKE woman has appeared before magistrates charged with assaulting a woman at Pembroke Leisure Centre.

Kaycee Blake, aged 35, of Devon Drive, Pembroke, is accused of assaulting a woman by beating during an alleged incident at the leisure centre on September 27, 2025.

Blake appeared before Haverfordwest Magistrates’ Court this week, where she denied the charge.

Her trial has been listed for June 1 at Haverfordwest Magistrates’ Court. She was released on unconditional bail.

 

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Scaffolder banned from road after cocaine drug-drive offence

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A PEMBROKESHIRE scaffolder has been banned from driving after being caught with cocaine in his system while on his way to work.

Alex Williams, 41, was stopped by police on the morning of November 3, 2025, as he drove his Peugeot 207 along the A4076 at Dredgemans Hill, Haverfordwest.

A roadside drug swipe proved positive. Subsequent blood tests showed he had 133 micrograms of benzoylecgonine in his system. The legal limit is 50.

The court heard other drugs were also detected, but all were below the legal limit.

Probation officer Julie Norman told magistrates: “He’d been to a party the weekend before where he’d consumed some cocaine.

“He was stopped by officers on Monday morning as he drove to his place of work in Waterston. But now, as a result of the offence, he is unsure whether he will be able to remain in his employment.”

Williams, of Summerhill, Keeston, was represented by solicitor Fenn Richards, who said the offence came at a time of increasing anxiety over his health.

“There’s a defective gene in his family which increases the risk of gastric cancer,” said Ms Richards.

“The defendant found out he had this gene just a few months before the offence. Several of his family members have passed away as a result of the gene, and naturally this has had a great impact on his mental health, which is why he consumed the cocaine.”

Williams was sentenced to a 12-month community order. He must complete ten rehabilitation activity requirement days and 100 hours of unpaid work.

He was also disqualified from driving for 17 months and ordered to pay a £114 surcharge and £85 costs.

 

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