Senedd backs British sign language bill

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7 months ago

June 20, 2024

THE SENEDD backed plans to introduce a bill to encourage the use of British sign language and improve access to public services for deaf people.

Mark Isherwood said his proposed British sign language (BSL) legislation would give deaf people a real voice in the design and delivery of services.

He told the Senedd that if the bill fails to become law, Wales will be the only part of the UK that is not covered by a specific BSL law.

The North Wales MS welcomed the UK’s 2022 British Sign Language Act but pointed out that the reporting and guidance duties do not apply to Wales.

Mr Isherwood, who won a ballot among MSs to propose the bill, said: “Existing legislation does not meet the needs of the deaf community and BSL signers.”

The Conservative explained the bill would establish a BSL commissioner, with the same powers as the Welsh language commissioner.

“This would show a significant message of support to the BSL signing community,” he said.

Mr Isherwood told the chamber the bill would place a duty on the Welsh Government to publish an annual report on progress in promoting and facilitating the use of BSL.

He quoted the British Deaf Association: “BSL is not just a language – it is also a gateway to learning and the means whereby deaf people survive and flourish in a hearing world.”

Mr Isherwood estimated the annual cost of the bill at about £800,000 for the first five years, stressing that early intervention and prevention will reduce cost pressures on other services.

Lesley Griffiths suggested the Welsh Government will not support the opposition bill as Mr Isherwood attempts to navigate the Senedd’s legislative process.

Wales’ social justice secretary said: “While I fully appreciate the intention behind this bill, I do not think it is needed. We can – and have – made significant progress without a bill.”

Ms Grifiths pointed out that the Welsh Government did not need a bill to include BSL in Wales’ new curriculum or to ensure BSL/English interpreters at press conferences.

She said: “We can, and we will, use policy levers to create effective change and equality,” adding that Welsh ministers recognised BSL as a language of Wales in 2004.

Ms Griffiths raised the role of the disability rights taskforce which was set up following a report, entitled Locked out, about the impact of the pandemic on disabled people.

Plaid Cymru’s Sioned Williams said Wales cannot rely on the goodwill of organisations alone, warning the lack of standards on BSL is a “clear gap in our legislative framework”.

She said: “More widely, this is an example of the wide-ranging social barriers that face the deaf community in Wales, which become clear, very often, very early on in their lives.”

The shadow social justice secretary raised alarm about the lack of any accredited auditory verbal therapists, who provide specialist early intervention for deaf children.

Ms Williams said deaf learners are 26% less likely to gain GCSE grades A* to C in English, Welsh and maths, compared with their hearing contemporaries.

She raised concerns about unequal access to health care, warning: “This puts their health at risk, undermines their human rights and dignity, and is a clear example of inequality.”

Sam Rowlands paid tribute to Mr Isherwood, who chairs cross-party groups on disability, deaf issues and autism, for his campaigning during two decades as a Senedd member.

The shadow health secretary argued his Conservative colleague’s bill has the potential to revolutionise the lives of deaf people in Wales.

Mr Rowlands told the chamber his mum has been learning British sign language in Wrexham but she has reached a point where more advanced courses are not available.

The North Wales MS said: “It’s struck me and my family that there’s a chance to consider how we include deaf people and how we can play our part in learning BSL….

“It’s simply not right or fair that deaf people are excluded from too many parts of life because of their disability.”

Peredur Owen Griffiths raised Welsh Women’s Aid’s concerns that a lack of BSL support prevents women at risk of, or experiencing, domestic abuse from seeking help.

The Plaid Cymru MS for South Wales East warned that around 22 deaf women are at risk every day but they continue to face significant barriers when accessing support.

He said: “These communication barriers cause additional obstacles for survivors wanting to access help and support, making it more difficult for them to leave perpetrators.”

He backed a reporting requirement, saying: “What gets measured gets done, so putting a duty on reporting is so important in creating a culture where use of BSL is embedded.”

In closing, Mr Owen Griffiths asked: “Parity between Welsh and English is enshrined in law, so why not add a third Welsh language, BSL?”

Natasha Asghar, who also represents South Wales East, said she attended a basic BSL course in Newport, “which was a hugely exciting as well as beneficial experience”.

She warned: “Many deaf BSL signers have a lower reading age than the general population as a result of linguistic exclusion. This in turn can lead to social exclusion.”

Replying to the debate, Mr Isherwood said it would be a matter of shame and a gross betrayal if Wales was the only part of the UK not covered by specific BSL legislation.

Members voted 24-16 to allow Mr Isherwood to introduce the bill, with three Labour backbenchers – Alun Davies, Rhianon Passmore and Buffy Williams – abstaining.

Senedd ‘sidelined’ by Westminster water bill

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15 hours ago

January 22, 2025

Chris Haines, ICNN Senedd reporter

The Senedd signed off on proposed UK legislation to regulate the water industry despite concerns about the Welsh Parliament being “sidelined” by Westminster

Senedd members voted to consent to the UK water (special measures) bill, which aims to address governance issues and poor performance from water companies on pollution.

But Llŷr Gruffydd, who chairs the climate change committee, said the Senedd was “at the mercy” of the UK Government, with time for scrutiny curtailed.

Mr Gruffydd warned of a “huge” increase in Westminster legislation in devolved areas, saying: “I know ministers in the Welsh Government believe it is appropriate in many cases.

“It might be possible to defend their position if the system worked but it does not, which, in my opinion, undermines the position of the government.”

‘Sidelined’

The Plaid Cymru politician said Huw Irranca-Davies, the deputy first minister, is well aware of the shortcomings of a legislative consent process he is now using so enthusiastically.

He pointed out that Welsh Water operates a different ownership model to water companies in England, saying governance proposals must suit Wales’ circumstances.

Mr Gruffydd, who represents North Wales, said the funds generated by fines levied on companies should stay in Wales to improve services and infrastructure.

Labour’s Mike Hedges, chair of the legislation committee, warned the Senedd was being “sidelined” and the legislative consent motion was “at odds” with ministers’ aims.

He said the Welsh Government’s 2015 water strategy stated the objective was to align regulatory boundaries for water and sewage with the Wales-England border.

‘Piggybacking’

Mr Hedges told the Senedd: “Elected Members of the Senedd are being prevented from having a full say on legislation affecting rivers through their constituencies.

“While MPs in England will be able to table amendments to the bill on matters that affect Welsh rivers, Members of the Senedd are being denied that opportunity.

“Overall, the evidence provided by the Welsh Government to support this approach to using a UK Government bill to legislate for Wales has not been persuasive.”

Mr Hedges, who represents Swansea East, warned the case for piggybacking on a UK bill was weak, with decisions taken too quickly and potentially not fully thought through.

He described the process as an unsatisfactory and regrettable way of making law for Wales.

‘Chaotic’

Janet Finch-Saunders said the Conservatives would support the motion, with more accountability required in light of the “chaotic” response to the Conwy water crisis.

The Aberconwy Senedd member welcomed powers in the bill to restrict bonuses paid to executives where water companies fail to meet required standards.

Plaid Cymru’s Delyth Jewell agreed the bill could strengthen efforts to reduce water pollution, particularly by enhancing the powers of regulators such as Ofwat.

Her party colleague Adam Price derided an insistence that water is inherently a cross-border issue, pointing out that many rivers and tributaries cross European borders.

Mr Price urged Welsh ministers to grasp powers – set out in the St David’s Day agreement on devolution which led to the 2017 Wales Act – to give the Senedd full control over water.

‘Lasting change’

Mr Irranca-Davies, who is climate change secretary, stressed that what happens upstream in England affects what happens downstream in Wales, and vice versa.

He said: “That means in order to make real and lasting change we must work together,” pointing out that Ofwat and the Drinking Water Inspectorate cover Wales and England.

He explained the bill will strengthen the regulator’s powers to address water pollution, limit bonuses and allow Natural Resources Wales to recover costs from water companies.

The deputy first minister added: “It is absolutely right to ensure that implementation is done in the best way for Wales, some of the measures … are likely to proceed differently.”

The Senedd voted 37-0 in favour of the legislative consent motion, with 10 Plaid Cymru members abstaining, following the debate on January 21.

Calls for ban on lying in Senedd by end of the year

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2 days ago

January 21, 2025

Tom Sinclair

A LOCAL politician has called on the Welsh Government to ban politicians from lying in the Senedd.

Speaking in the Senedd on Tuesday, Mid and West Wales MS Jane Dodds MS called on the First Minister Eluned Morgan to confirm that legislation on political deception will be passed this year.

Last summer, Jane Dodds MS voted in favour of a motion which would make it an offence for a Senedd member, or a candidate for election to the Senedd, to wilfully or with intent to mislead make or publish a statement that is known to be false or deceptive.

The Welsh Government has previously committed towards making lying in Welsh politics an offence.

According to data from the Veracity Index, in 2024 only 9% of the public trusted politicians to tell the truth-the lowest score in forty years.

The Welsh Liberal Democrats have backed plans to ban lying in the Senedd, as part of their pledge to clean up Welsh politics.

Commenting on the need to restore trust back into Welsh politics, Mid and West Wales MS Jane Dodds said that “we need to counter the rise of misinformation and its damaging consequences.”

We need to look no further than the event of last summer, where misinformation spread by elected officials led to riots that left lasting damages on countless communities.

Mistruths and lying can and have had a devastating impact on the lives of millions of people, which is why we must act now.

We can no longer tolerate the hijacking of our political system by mistruths and deception, We have return power back to voters.

The stakes have never been higher and the Welsh Government cannot afford to sit by and watch as public trust in our democratic institutions continues to erode away. “

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Ex-FM declares interest amid calls for crackdown on political donations

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2 days ago

January 21, 2025

Chris Haines, ICNN Senedd reporter

VAUGHAN GETHING declared an interest as the Senedd’s petitions committee discussed calls for a crackdown on donations to politicians.

The former first minister made the declaration as the committee considered a petition calling for stricter rules to limit gifts, donations and payments received by Senedd members

Mr Gething, who broke no rules, stood down in August amid controversy around a £200,000 donation to his Welsh Labour leadership campaign from a convicted polluter.

During the declaration of interest section of Monday’s meeting, he said: “I don’t think I have a declaration of interest but the petitioner, I think, is talking about me in part of it.”

In her 343-name petition, Lyn Eynon wrote: “There has been wide public concern over large donations given to a prominent Member of the Senedd. Lessons must be learnt from this.

“Wales must preserve and enhance its reputation for transparency and integrity.

“All MSs have a duty to ensure that no conflict arises, or appears to arise, between their public duties and their private interests.”

Senedd members agreed to keep the petition open while the standards committee concludes its inquiry into the registration and declaration of interests.

Mr Gething wrote to the standards committee in May, acknowledging concerns and calling for a review of the rules on donations made to Senedd members.

The standards committee – which is now chaired by Hannah Blythyn, who was sacked by Mr Gething amid claims of leaking – is expected to continue this work in the summer term.

Mr Gething also drew the committee’s attention to a petition on Covid-19 vaccine side effects, pointing out he was health minister at the start of the vaccination programme.

While the petition met the 10,000-name threshold to be considered for a Senedd debate, committee members agreed to close the petition submitted by Alison Butler.

Rhys ab Owen, an independent member of the petitions committee, pointed out that module four of the UK Covid inquiry will consider and make recommendations on vaccines.

He said: “I don’t think it’s appropriate for us to have any debate in the Senedd, bearing in mind only a quarter of those who signed the petition were based in Wales.”

Mr Gething said he will be giving written evidence to module four of the Covid inquiry but he was unsure whether he will be called to appear in person.

Committee members also closed a 443-name petition, submitted by Jasmin McNally, calling on the Welsh Government to scrap its “racist and ridiculous” anti-racist Wales plan.

Mr Gething pointed out that the plan was endorsed by all parties in the Senedd.

“The petitioner’s entitled to have a different point of view,” he said. “But we’re not going to change government policy or the view of the Senedd on this.

“I disagree in strong terms with the emotive and offensive language used by the petitioner but that’s what happens in a democracy.

“I don’t believe there is more action the committee can take. We simply have a disagreement of views and if she wants people who agree with her, the ballot box is the way to do it.”

During the meeting on January 20, Senedd members discussed a 271-signature petition, calling for meat-free Mondays in every school in Wales.

Manon Thompson, the teenage petitioner, wrote that meat-free Mondays – as adopted by Cardiff council – would reduce carbon footprints and save the lives of animals.

The committee thanked the young campaigner, agreeing to close the petition with Welsh ministers expected to hold a consultation on healthy eating in the spring.

Members also noted a letter from the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), dashing petitioners’ hopes of S4C pulling together a bid for Wales to compete in Eurovision.

Bakel Walden, from the EBU, wrote: “As the BBC continues to participate, and remains the rights holder in the United Kingdom, this means an entry from the individual nations of the UK is therefore not possible at the Eurovision Song Contest.”